Pattaya, September 19 [PATTAYA ONE NEWS] : At around 9pm on Friday Night, Police Colonel Atisawit, the Superintendant of Pattaya’s Immigration Office led a raid of a venue located in Soi LK Metro in Central Pattaya called “The Devil’s Den†which promotes itself as an escort and hostess service on their website. Officers entered the establishment and detained 21 female employees and its English owner known only as “Jackâ€. The club, formerly known as “The Hell Club†has encountered problems with the authorities in the past and this time, Immigration were made aware of the venues website which they claim offered sexual services to clients in exchange for money which is illegal here in Thailand. The English Owner of the venue denies all allegations made against him and his venue and the case is currently ongoing at the Immigration Office in Jomtien.
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Devil’s Den in Soi LK metro raided by Pattaya Immigration Officers.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 06:57 AM
Here's how the Devil's Den, formerly the Hell Club worked. It's based on the Eden Club (Bangkok Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 model).
You must take two girls. There is a yellow line accross the room and girls on one side of the line take anal and the other do not.
It's a place to live out fantasies with only scat play and blood off limits.
The manager showed me an Excel spreadsheet that said what each girl will/will not do.
So if you wanted for instance a tossed salad and golden shower, the manager would look at the spreadsheet and recommend a girl for you to pick.
You can pick both girls but it was recommended that you pick one and she pick onen that she's comfortable with.
Some guys reading this back home may think I'm putting you on.
Not so. Crazy place.
You must take two girls. There is a yellow line accross the room and girls on one side of the line take anal and the other do not.
It's a place to live out fantasies with only scat play and blood off limits.
The manager showed me an Excel spreadsheet that said what each girl will/will not do.
So if you wanted for instance a tossed salad and golden shower, the manager would look at the spreadsheet and recommend a girl for you to pick.
You can pick both girls but it was recommended that you pick one and she pick onen that she's comfortable with.
Some guys reading this back home may think I'm putting you on.
Not so. Crazy place.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 10:59 AM
Dear Beer Chang,
I have been in Thailand for 7 years and am floored by your post. I can't believe someone would keep excel spreadsheets on the girls. I really cannot. EVERYTHING is OK but blood and scat. They have something for every taste I guess. I have no problem with bars and offing. I actually quite enjoy it. But, to me, this would seem like a bad business move for the owner. Detailed records? Spreadsheets?
I have learned a lot today! Thank you.
I have been in Thailand for 7 years and am floored by your post. I can't believe someone would keep excel spreadsheets on the girls. I really cannot. EVERYTHING is OK but blood and scat. They have something for every taste I guess. I have no problem with bars and offing. I actually quite enjoy it. But, to me, this would seem like a bad business move for the owner. Detailed records? Spreadsheets?
I have learned a lot today! Thank you.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 01:14 PM
CrazyExpat, on 20 September 2009 - 10:59 AM, said:
I have been in Thailand for 7 years and am floored by your post.
http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:49 AM
The Castle is right next to Buffalo Bar, a favorite of the expat crowd.
The spreadsheet at Devil's Den though when I saw it the Hell Club, was amazing.
A lifelong buddy was on his first trip and we popped in and talked to the farang manager.
He explained the concept of the club and showed me the spreadsheet, just seemed strange.
But the spreadsheet is not what they did with particular customers, just what they would do in general.
Most bars attempt to separate themselves from the prostitution angle but this place was just over the top.
The spreadsheet at Devil's Den though when I saw it the Hell Club, was amazing.
A lifelong buddy was on his first trip and we popped in and talked to the farang manager.
He explained the concept of the club and showed me the spreadsheet, just seemed strange.
But the spreadsheet is not what they did with particular customers, just what they would do in general.
Most bars attempt to separate themselves from the prostitution angle but this place was just over the top.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:24 PM
Why beat around the bush!! 
I suspect that it is a well patronised business. It certainly has a strong following.
I suspect that it is a well patronised business. It certainly has a strong following.
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:33 PM
Thaimo, on 20 September 2009 - 01:14 PM, said:
If that floors you, maybe this will also floor you. Were you aware of the existence of this place? Have you (or anyone else reading this) ever been there?
http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com
http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 08:30 PM
I get the impression that The Castle is S&M lite while Chateau Jade in Bangkok is the real deal:
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Where are you located?/What is your phone number?
A:We don't divulge our exact location on the Internet nor do we usually give out our phone number. This is for your security as well as ours. We value our privacy as we protect yours.
Q: How can you assure guests that they can book space whenever they wish?
A: Book early whenever possible. Based on experience we rarely have more than three sessions at same time. So we think this will not be a problem for some time. When we need more space we will expand and until then we will be adding staff and equipment as time goes by.
Q: What about limits?
A: There are a few House limits, things which no guest or staffer may do or expect to be done on premises. As in any sane, safe, informed-consensual BDSM setting, there will also be individual limits set by staffers and members among themselves. In the event of any dispute the decision of the supervising Mistress will be final.
Q: So what are the House limits?
A: We will not allow any sort of drug use, any D/s play with children (age less than 20) , or any animal interaction. The precise definitions of these will be governed by the laws of the host country, but for the moment commonsense interpretations will suffice. These are 'hard' limits.
We also have some 'soft' limits, things we are not interested in or have not yet gotten properly trained to do safely and so we steer clear of them. Some of these include breath control, scarification/branding, and fire play. Some we are actively looking to learn; others, just not inclined toward. Pls inquire. We also lack the space (at this time) for decent pony play or for single tail whips (bullwhips, stockwhips) not to mention the great skill required to handle these, much less use them for CP, safely.
Does this mean we are strictly a 'light' House? Not at all. We do several types of 'extreme' scenes, including scat, GS, heavy CP, CBT, medical, interrogation (so called consensual nonconsent), electrical, hot wax, Foley catheterization, playpiercing etc. Not to mention that ALL extended play beyond a few hours is usually considered extreme by most Scene authorities. And every session we do qualifies on that count as 'edge' or 'extreme' play. But we also do sensuous sessions and not all subs want or need as much intense stimulation as others. That makes a typical session hard to describe, but also keeps us from getting bored.
Q: Is Chateau Jade a house of prostitution? Can guests expect to have sex with the Dommes?
A: Chateau Jade is NOT a whorehouse. We are NOT selling penetrative male on female sex, we are providing erotic play for sophisticated adults by sophisticated adults. Sex is not part of the menu nor it is an extra-cost option. (There are NO extra cost options at Chateau Jade.)
Q: Are you expecting any deposits or advance payments at this time?
A: We do not require deposits from members. We reserve the option of requesting a 20% (or US $200 minimum) deposit from first timers when circumstances require. Pls see our Rates below.
Q: What are your standard session rates?
A: NEW RATES:P>All sessions are with TWO Mistresses
Three Hours 7000 Baht
Six hours 10,000 Baht
Twelve hours 15,000 baht
Twenty-four hours 20,000 baht
For more than 2 Dommes pls inquire.
Please note couples pay same price as singles as long as both persons share same quarters and Dommes/switches. On the other hand if a husband and wife (for example) come and expect seperate quarters and 4 Dommes then they will have to pay as 2 singles.
Thai baht is generally c.32-33 to US$, recently, but if you pay in currency other than Baht, the prevailing Bank of Thailand exchange rate at that time will apply.
Q: Don't you have hourly rates? Suppose someone wants to come for just a few hours?
A: We specialize in extended sessions and almost all our guests travel here from great distances. And we are not a walk-in establishment like a massage parlor. If someone is constrained for time we will charge the highly economical half day rate. We are trying to encourage longer sessions. If you wish a comparison to hourly rates in USA or Europe or Japan or Australia, there are basically 3 tiers of prices in those places. Entry level $100-$175 per hour, for single Domme; typical $200-300/hour per Domme; elite $400/hour or higher per Domme. In comparison we charge approximately US $12.50 per hour per Domme. This is what enables us to offer the only affordable extended play in the world, even considering the time and expense of air travel from far away.
Please note that in other places (but NOT here) prices also vary according to type of session and equipment used; skills of Dommes elsewhere vary widely and prices do not always accurately reflect quality of facilities or service providers. Some (too many) alleged pro Dommes are just prostitutes in costumes and have neither the skill nor inclination to conduct D/s sessions. Our Dommes are NOT sex workers or former prostitutes. We have nothing against sex workers, I hasten to add. But we recruited our Domme-trainees from 'straight' careers, not from the local nightlife demimonde.
Q: What about alcoholic beverages?
A: We know that drinking and D/s or BDSM is a contentious matter. Our present inclination is to allow light and moderate drinking (provided by the Club as part of services) but to expect decorum and fully responsible behavior from guests and staff at all times. The main issue is one of responsibility and informed consent; an intoxicated submissive cannot consent any more than an intoxicated Domme can behave responsibly. Besides, as our Scene is all about heightened sensation, why deaden yourself with alcohol? Still the bar is there for those who need to relax with a cocktail after a session. We are also tobacco-friendly. These policies would make us politically incorrect in some places but we think anyone so intolerant as to wish to interfere with the liberties of his/her fellows is a most peculiar sort of D/s'er; we are pretty libertarian (and libertine) -- and proud of it!!
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Where are you located?/What is your phone number?
A:We don't divulge our exact location on the Internet nor do we usually give out our phone number. This is for your security as well as ours. We value our privacy as we protect yours.
Q: How can you assure guests that they can book space whenever they wish?
A: Book early whenever possible. Based on experience we rarely have more than three sessions at same time. So we think this will not be a problem for some time. When we need more space we will expand and until then we will be adding staff and equipment as time goes by.
Q: What about limits?
A: There are a few House limits, things which no guest or staffer may do or expect to be done on premises. As in any sane, safe, informed-consensual BDSM setting, there will also be individual limits set by staffers and members among themselves. In the event of any dispute the decision of the supervising Mistress will be final.
Q: So what are the House limits?
A: We will not allow any sort of drug use, any D/s play with children (age less than 20) , or any animal interaction. The precise definitions of these will be governed by the laws of the host country, but for the moment commonsense interpretations will suffice. These are 'hard' limits.
We also have some 'soft' limits, things we are not interested in or have not yet gotten properly trained to do safely and so we steer clear of them. Some of these include breath control, scarification/branding, and fire play. Some we are actively looking to learn; others, just not inclined toward. Pls inquire. We also lack the space (at this time) for decent pony play or for single tail whips (bullwhips, stockwhips) not to mention the great skill required to handle these, much less use them for CP, safely.
Does this mean we are strictly a 'light' House? Not at all. We do several types of 'extreme' scenes, including scat, GS, heavy CP, CBT, medical, interrogation (so called consensual nonconsent), electrical, hot wax, Foley catheterization, playpiercing etc. Not to mention that ALL extended play beyond a few hours is usually considered extreme by most Scene authorities. And every session we do qualifies on that count as 'edge' or 'extreme' play. But we also do sensuous sessions and not all subs want or need as much intense stimulation as others. That makes a typical session hard to describe, but also keeps us from getting bored.
Q: Is Chateau Jade a house of prostitution? Can guests expect to have sex with the Dommes?
A: Chateau Jade is NOT a whorehouse. We are NOT selling penetrative male on female sex, we are providing erotic play for sophisticated adults by sophisticated adults. Sex is not part of the menu nor it is an extra-cost option. (There are NO extra cost options at Chateau Jade.)
Q: Are you expecting any deposits or advance payments at this time?
A: We do not require deposits from members. We reserve the option of requesting a 20% (or US $200 minimum) deposit from first timers when circumstances require. Pls see our Rates below.
Q: What are your standard session rates?
A: NEW RATES:P>All sessions are with TWO Mistresses
Three Hours 7000 Baht
Six hours 10,000 Baht
Twelve hours 15,000 baht
Twenty-four hours 20,000 baht
For more than 2 Dommes pls inquire.
Please note couples pay same price as singles as long as both persons share same quarters and Dommes/switches. On the other hand if a husband and wife (for example) come and expect seperate quarters and 4 Dommes then they will have to pay as 2 singles.
Thai baht is generally c.32-33 to US$, recently, but if you pay in currency other than Baht, the prevailing Bank of Thailand exchange rate at that time will apply.
Q: Don't you have hourly rates? Suppose someone wants to come for just a few hours?
A: We specialize in extended sessions and almost all our guests travel here from great distances. And we are not a walk-in establishment like a massage parlor. If someone is constrained for time we will charge the highly economical half day rate. We are trying to encourage longer sessions. If you wish a comparison to hourly rates in USA or Europe or Japan or Australia, there are basically 3 tiers of prices in those places. Entry level $100-$175 per hour, for single Domme; typical $200-300/hour per Domme; elite $400/hour or higher per Domme. In comparison we charge approximately US $12.50 per hour per Domme. This is what enables us to offer the only affordable extended play in the world, even considering the time and expense of air travel from far away.
Please note that in other places (but NOT here) prices also vary according to type of session and equipment used; skills of Dommes elsewhere vary widely and prices do not always accurately reflect quality of facilities or service providers. Some (too many) alleged pro Dommes are just prostitutes in costumes and have neither the skill nor inclination to conduct D/s sessions. Our Dommes are NOT sex workers or former prostitutes. We have nothing against sex workers, I hasten to add. But we recruited our Domme-trainees from 'straight' careers, not from the local nightlife demimonde.
Q: What about alcoholic beverages?
A: We know that drinking and D/s or BDSM is a contentious matter. Our present inclination is to allow light and moderate drinking (provided by the Club as part of services) but to expect decorum and fully responsible behavior from guests and staff at all times. The main issue is one of responsibility and informed consent; an intoxicated submissive cannot consent any more than an intoxicated Domme can behave responsibly. Besides, as our Scene is all about heightened sensation, why deaden yourself with alcohol? Still the bar is there for those who need to relax with a cocktail after a session. We are also tobacco-friendly. These policies would make us politically incorrect in some places but we think anyone so intolerant as to wish to interfere with the liberties of his/her fellows is a most peculiar sort of D/s'er; we are pretty libertarian (and libertine) -- and proud of it!!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:40 AM
Beer Chang, on 04 October 2009 - 08:30 PM, said:
We do several types of 'extreme' scenes, including scat, GS, heavy CP, CBT, medical, interrogation (so called consensual nonconsent), electrical, hot wax, Foley catheterization, playpiercing etc.
I was wondering where the senators were going after they closed the Denver airport bathrooms!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:42 AM
Beer Chang, on 04 October 2009 - 08:30 PM, said:
We will not allow .......any animal interaction.
Oh hell, you won't even allow a cute monkey? Guess they won't let me in.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 05:12 AM
Bob, on 05 October 2009 - 01:42 AM, said:
Oh hell, you won't even allow a cute monkey? Guess they won't let me in.
Not even for medical interrogation Bob!
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:21 AM
Wow, this blows my mind. I had no idea any of this was available in Thailand. Is this a joke?
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 02:14 AM
Everything else is available in Thailand, so it doesn't surprise me.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:09 PM
Wino, on 06 October 2009 - 01:21 AM, said:
Is this a joke?
Nope. I couldn't make this stuff up.
You can google it.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 02:00 AM
Can we have a volunteer to check this place out and report back?
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 03:00 AM
Wino, on 08 October 2009 - 02:00 AM, said:
Can we have a volunteer to check this place out and report back?
How about we have a contest of some type - and whoever loses has to go?
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:28 AM
Wino, on 08 October 2009 - 02:00 AM, said:
Can we have a volunteer to check this place out and report back?
Are you talking about Chateau Jade?
Or Devil's Den. Devil's Den was the same concept as Eden Club which is (or used to be) on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 in Bangkok.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:30 AM
Beer Chang, on 08 October 2009 - 06:28 AM, said:
Are you talking about Chateau Jade?
Or Devil's Den. Devil's Den was the same concept as Eden Club which is (or used to be) on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 in Bangkok.
Or Devil's Den. Devil's Den was the same concept as Eden Club which is (or used to be) on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 in Bangkok.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:43 AM
If any of you guys summons the courage to visit this establishment it is once again open for business.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 12:23 PM
Banglas, on 09 October 2009 - 10:43 AM, said:
If any of you guys summons the courage to visit this establishment it is once again open for business.
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