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#21 lvdkeyes

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 10:50 AM

A visit to the emergency room can bankrupt you in itself.

#22 Beer Chang

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:13 AM

View PostWannaGo, on 18 September 2009 - 06:38 PM, said:

It can't be due to an inability to coordinate medical treatment and payment between the US and foreign countries. There are a whole slew of US insurance companies that will provide coverage for Americans living abroad, including one of the best, Blue Cross/Blue Shield.

Not all Blue plans will cover those living abroad.

And some won't reimburse at the same percentage they would back home.

#23 Beer Chang

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:16 AM

View PostThaimo, on 19 September 2009 - 02:05 AM, said:

Being retired and living outside the USA, as an American citizen I am still expected to pay IRS income tax. If I am still paying taxes even under retirement, then I feel I have a right to the same benefits every retiree living within the USA gets.
Sort of like taxation without representation since none of the Congressional clowns care about us.

#24 Wino

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 01:08 PM

View Postlvdkeyes, on 01 October 2009 - 10:50 AM, said:

A visit to the emergency room can bankrupt you in itself.
A vist to the emergency room can certainly cost a small fortune. Many hospitals have opened urgent care facilities in my community. Although they are cheaper than the emergency room, they are still expensive.

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 10:18 AM

What amazes me the most is that the people who would benefit the most from universal coverage - the poor and the middle class - are the people most opposed to universal health coverage.

#26 Wino

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 07:20 PM

View Postsmoker, on 02 October 2009 - 10:18 AM, said:

What amazes me the most is that the people who would benefit the most from universal coverage - the poor and the middle class - are the people most opposed to universal health coverage.
I am not sure if the poor are opposed. Maybe because the bill, by law, may require then to buy health insurance. Perhaps, the middle class are opposed because they are the ones that will end up paying for it?

#27 Beer Chang

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 07:25 PM

For some reason the middle class seems to really hate the lower class.

But seems to me that the exploitation of the middle class by the upper class hurst the middle class more than say welfare cheats.

#28 WannaGo

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 02:50 AM

View PostWino, on 02 October 2009 - 07:20 PM, said:

I am not sure if the poor are opposed. Maybe because the bill, by law, may require then to buy health insurance. Perhaps, the middle class are opposed because they are the ones that will end up paying for it?

Trust me, it is the poor who are opposed. Or at least a certain segment of the poor...specifically, rural white Americans who, for some unfathomable reason, buy into the whole Republican lie about health care reform being the road to ruin. These are the people who were showing up all pissed off at these town hall meetings...people who can't afford healthcare themselves. It's insanity.

I don't have health insurance. Fortunately, I can get some medical care through the Veteran's Admin, but I live in fear of a medical emergency. The VA doesn't cover ER visits, so to get any sort of emergency care that would not bankrupt me, the rules require that I travel to a VA hospital about 6 hours from here.

#29 lvdkeyes

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 08:46 AM

Speaking of welfare cheats, when I was doing home health care in San Francisco, I went to visit a woman who lived in a very nice house high on a hill over looking city college. Those familiar with SF will know that is a very nice neighborhood. She had beautiful furniture (nicer than mine) and a newer Lincoln parked in her garage. She was receiving MediCal which is California's MediCaid (welfare). I don't know how she qualified, but MediCal is what was paying for her health care.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 09:20 AM

View PostWannaGo, on 03 October 2009 - 02:50 AM, said:

Trust me, it is the poor who are opposed. Or at least a certain segment of the poor...specifically, rural white Americans who, for some unfathomable reason, buy into the whole Republican lie about health care reform being the road to ruin. These are the people who were showing up all pissed off at these town hall meetings...people who can't afford healthcare themselves. It's insanity.

I don't have health insurance. Fortunately, I can get some medical care through the Veteran's Admin, but I live in fear of a medical emergency. The VA doesn't cover ER visits, so to get any sort of emergency care that would not bankrupt me, the rules require that I travel to a VA hospital about 6 hours from here.

The whole rural white reaction makes no sense at all.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 10:15 AM

View Postsmoker, on 03 October 2009 - 09:20 AM, said:

The whole rural white reaction makes no sense at all.

I agree. Too much FOX News they watch.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:45 PM

[quote name='Beer Chang' date='03 October 2009 - 05:15 PM' timestamp='1254564937' post='1621']
I agree. Too much FOX News they watch.
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The many people that watch FOX can easily believe that the garbage they put out is "fair and balanced." In the past, the rural white poor, especially in the South, were supporters of democratic agenda. Not anymore. The Rush Limbaugh's, Sean Hannity, O'Rielly and the like has helped changed that voting block.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:56 AM

You forgot Glenn Beck.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:52 PM

View Postsmoker, on 05 October 2009 - 08:56 AM, said:

You forgot Glenn Beck.
Beck, O'Rielly, Hannity, Lumbaugh....same, same, but different.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:41 AM

Beck is more insane than the rest.




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